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feat(analysis/calculus/fderiv/exp): derivative of exp ℝ (A x)
in non-commutative rings
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lemma has_deriv_at_exp_smul_const (A : 𝔸) (t : ℝ) : | ||
has_deriv_at (λ t : ℝ, exp ℝ (t • A)) (A * exp ℝ (t • A)) t := sorry |
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@ADedecker; do you know if your existing results in nalysis.special_functions.exponential
are strong enough to prove this?
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Ah, I know about this issue. Indeed we don't have what is required to prove them right now, but that shouldn't be too much trouble. I had started to work on something like that bout two years ago (you can have a look at the very old branch more_exponential
), and I think at least the statement should be saved:
lemma has_fderiv_at_exp_smul_const_of_mem_ball [char_zero 𝕂] {𝔸' : Type*} [normed_comm_ring 𝔸']
[normed_algebra 𝕂 𝔸'] [algebra 𝔸' 𝔸] [has_continuous_smul 𝔸' 𝔸] [is_scalar_tower 𝕂 𝔸' 𝔸]
(x : 𝔸) (t : 𝔸') (htx : t • x ∈ emetric.ball (0 : 𝔸) (exp_series 𝕂 𝔸).radius) :
has_fderiv_at (λ (u : 𝔸'), exp 𝕂 𝔸 (u • x))
(exp 𝕂 𝔸 (t • x) • ((1 : 𝔸' →L[𝕂] 𝔸').smul_right x)) t :=
(of course you can get rid of the radius hypothesis with is_R_or_C
)
At the time I wasn't aware of algebra.adjoin
so I made this the main lemma and made has_fderiv_at_exp_of_mem_ball
a consequence (at least I wanted to, IIRC this caused some troubles), but maybe a more sensible approach would be to (1) prove that exp
behaves well under continuous algebra morphisms and (2) consider the closure of the subalgebra algebra.adjoin 𝔸' x
(which is complete and commutative), apply has_fderiv_at_exp_of_mem_ball
and then (1).
I can have a go at either reviving my old proof or trying the new one if you want.
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I was able to revive your old proof with minimal modification. The primed version now follows trivially from the unprimed one.
Is there any advantage to switching to your proposed strategy?
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(1) prove that exp behaves well under continuous algebra morphisms
I proved this a while ago, it's map_exp
.
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I was able to revive your old proof with minimal modification. The primed version now follows trivially from the unprimed one.
Thanks a lot!
Is there any advantage to switching to your proposed strategy?
Not really, but with a bit more mathematical maturity than I had two years ago the second approach feels more natural, and this is definitely what we would do on paper. But I think it would be a bit painful in Lean, and we definitely lack some API (for example I can't find the fact that algebra.adjoin
is commutative under the obvious hypotheses). So since this one's working I'd say sticking to it is the best solution.
I have a last question, did you check wether has_fderiv_at_exp_of_mem_ball
could be made a consequence of this version? If you prefer not to change previous files because of the port that's fine of course, but it would be nice to at least give it a try.
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I've extracted all these results to #19062
This PR/issue depends on: |
This follows the proof on Physics.SE that shows
There are significant stumbling blocks in the way of proving this, sadly.
u ↦ exp 𝕂 (u • x)
#19062